San Antonio NBC News Reports on Troubles with Nutro Pet Food

And I was saying that that by buying meat, you are putting that same trust into someone you don’t know as the trust you are putting into a pet food company that makes kibble. The ONLY way you know what you’re feeding your pet is if you raise it yourself AND raise and grow the food that will be fed to the to be slaughtered animal. Point being that as long as we have pets, we HAVE TO TRUST SOME ONE AT SOME POINT. I have chickens, ducks, and geese. I use no chemicals on my property and they range 12 acres and eat all the natural stuff they want. But, like the majority of the country, our area would not be conducive to growing the feed needed to feed those birds so I must do my research best I can and choose the company I trust most to make their food. Now, I know what those birds eat on my property, but I can’t guarantee what’s in their feed, therefore I can’t guarantee what my pets are eating as a result. If you feed raw, have you been to the farm that raises the meat you’re feeding? For most people, thats highly unlikely so they cannot guarantee what their pets are eating because they don’t know what the animals are being fed or how they’re being treated. We can try to do what’s best for our pets, but we must trust someone at some point. There are good people out there as well as good companies. Believe they’re all bad and we quite possibly may be short changing our pets.

Wild and domestic are states of mind. It’s not where an animal lives or who raises it that determines its nutritional needs. It’s still a dog. It’s still a cat. Either raised in a litter of a wild cat mom or in a wolf pack by a wild wolf mom, or raised by humans in a house, there nutritional needs do not do vary depending on where they live or what species raises them. Take a litter of tabbies and put them in a litter of wild bobcats, those “domestic” kittens will be wild and have the same nutritional needs as their bobcat relatives. If you had a cabin in the woods and found a litter of bobcats, took some of them home to be raised by a domestic cat mom, those bobcats would have the same nutritional needs as their wild littermates. They wouldn’t have different food requirements just because they were weaned and raised within the walls of a cabin and were used to humans handling them.

They all need a raw diet.

Are cats carnivores? Yes. Are dogs carnivores? Yes. What is a carnivore? Look it up yourself. How can feeding domestic carnivores be dangerous? Just take common sense precautions to avoid bacterial contamination from raw meat. The bacteria can be killed by soaking the raw meat in water with a few drops of grapefruit seed extract for a about 20-30 minutes. Celeste Yarnall has been doing it for years. I’ve weaned and raised 3 generations of cats, all related, on a raw diet, but I never used grapefruit seed extract diluted in water to kill the bacteria in the meat. Cats and dogs also naturally produce hydrochloric acid in their stomachs to break down bone and cartilage and neutralize bacteria. God knew what was doing when he created these creatures. None of my cats EVER got sick from it. They ate raw starting at 6 weeks of age. They never got sick from anything. To say that feeding raw meat to an animal that is raised by humans (“domestic”, which is just a state of mind, anyway) just because it was raised by humans, is “dangerous” is a broad generalization itself. What did cats and dogs eat for 30 centuries before commercial pet food was invented? The only people against raw diets are veterinarians who “don’t recommend it” for fear of a lawsuit, pet food company employees, pet food company public relation personnel, pet store employees whose job it is to sell the commercial pet foods on their shelves, and the average citizen who is paranoid about what “might” happen if they feed their domestic carnivore (cat, dog, other carnivores) a raw diet. Should snakes raised and handled by humans stop eating mice, rats, fish and other live prey because the snake is “domestic”? I’m not saying cats and dogs should be fed live prey. What I mean is that snake owners feed their snakes a raw diet because the snake is a carnivore and has the same requirements as its wild relatives. Should lions and tigers in circuses stop eating a raw meat diet because there were raised and handled and ahve been around humans their entire lives? Should carnivores in zoos not eat a raw diet because they weren’t raised in the wilderness, but were raised by humans in a zoo? Some zoo animals were orphans that were abandoned by their mothers. Zoo employees hand- raise those infant animals, and when they are old enough they go on exhibit in the zoo. Should those particular animals, that are carnivores, not be weaned on or eat a raw diet because they were raised by human surrogate parents? As pet owners, we are human surrogate parents. But a dog is still a dog and still a carnivore. A cat is still a cat and still a carnivore. How many cats or dogs, wild or domestic, raise wheat, corn, or other grain, then kill a wild herbivore, cook the grain and meat together and then eat it? How many wolves has anyone ever seen raid a cornfield? How many African wild cats, the ancestor of “domestic” cats, has anyone seen cooking their prey over a campfire, gathering wild grains or roots for starch, mix them together, put it all in a bag or a can, store it on a shelf for up to a year, and then eat it? at together, and then eat it? Are wild carnivores lacking energy because no one humans are feeding them “carbs for energy”? Why does your cat stalk birds and mice and not stalk grains? Because their instincts guide them to what they NEED, and that is MEAT, RAW MEAT. Why does your cat eat that mouse or bird and not cook it first and then eat it? Because it’s a cat. Their teeth, bodies, digestive system, the hydrochloric acid in their stomachs to break down bones and neutralize bacteria, everything about their morphology and biology is made for eating the flesh of herbivores. It’s not rocket surgery. People need to stop believing the pet food industry spiel, lies, misleading ads and propaganda and think for themselves and feed a raw diet to their cats and dogs. Stop being sheeple.

The kibble that you speak of, such as that made by Nutro, killed two dogs. This is not the first time that commercial pet foods have killed pets. It’s happened a lot recently. Why keep taking the chance on feeding commercial dog foods that have killed pets? I mentioned Celeste Yarnall, because she is the only person I know of who has successfully raised generation after generation of raw diets for cats. There are others, but you can do your own research, if you choose. Contact her yourself and ask if any of her cats have ever died from the diet she prepares for them. Compare her answer to the number of pets that have been fed from eating kibble/dry/canned, (commercial foods) that have died from it. Do your own research. You and others may want to keep taking chances with feeding commercial foods, (you know, the kind that have killed numerous pets in recent years. Remember?), but that is your prerogative. Go ahead and out your pets at risk. People KEEP trusting commercial pet foods. This latest incident Nutro is the result, for that pet owner at least, of people continuing to put their faith in commercial pet foods. To each his own. Whatever. If people purchase for themselves meat from a deli or grocery store to take home to cook and eat, then it only makes sense that the same meat can be left uncooked, mixed with the necessary supplements to make it nutritionally complete, and fed to cats and dogs. I didn’t say never trust anyone about any type of raw meat or the supplements to mix with the raw meat to feed to pets. I said people should stop trusting commercial pet foods. Why take the chance with the life of an innocent creature who cannot choose for himself? Some people may want to do that, but we all have to make our own decisions. People need to separate their pride ( they don’t like to told what to do or that commercial foods may harm or kill their pets) from their pets’ welfare. Some people want to keep taking chances with commercial foods and some people do not want to keep talking chances with commercial foods. How many pets have to die before more people stop trusting commercial foods and, with help from those more experienced, start formulating their own, either home-cooked or raw, feed pets a home-made diet. Even a home COOKED diet is better than commercial foods. Commercial foods have already proven themselves. You can connect the dots for yourself.

Dogs are carnivores. What do you think Arctic wolves eat? Not any significant amount of vegetation. It doesn’t exist on the Tundra. What about any wolf in the northern hemisphere? What do they eat in winter? The plants are under feet of snow. Wolves not not hibernate like bears or squirrels. They have to eat something. Wolves in hotter climates? Well, since it’s a warmer climate more animals are active year round, giving wolves more choices of prey to eat. Contact any wolf expert or researching who has years of field experience. Ask them what wolves eat. Has anyone ever seen wolves grazing like their prey? Doubtful. Dogs did not evolve. The numerous MAN MADE breeds, genetically manipulated by humans is not evolution. It’s selective breeding and inbreeding that have produced MOST of today’s breeds. Having a small gene pool is one of the reasons why so many domestic breeds have so many genetic health problems. Feeding them food they were not designed for only adds to the problem.

You agree that cats are carnivores. They’d still be carnivores even if you didn’t agree and if neither of us had ever been born. But kibble is made from grains. Grains are not part of the diet of any carnivore. Do lions or bobcats have farms of grain? No. Why would anyone think that grain is correct for carnivores? It’s ludicrous. Grains cause kidney stones, plaque on the teeth, diabetes on older, less active cats and skin allergies.

Evolution is a myth. Even Darwin himself said it was only a theory. There is no proof. I suggest a book for you to read called TORNADO IN A JUNKYARD THE RELENTLESS MYTH OF DARWINISM, by author JAMES PERLOFF In. the fossil record there are no transitional animals found. They appear as if they were already made, with no “in between” skeletons or fossils ever found. Even Jack Horner, the paleontologist, who believes in evolution, admits in his book, How To Build a Dinosaur, that he has never found any species in transition from one type of animal into another. And none of his colleagues have found anything like that either. No one was around “millions of years ago” and cannot say evolution is true. SOME evolutionists, (not all) say God doesn’t exist, people who believe in God are silly, There is no proof of Him. But believers believe on Faith. But guess what, believing in evolution also relies on faith because the evolution community says such and such happened millions of years ago, this animal changed into a new animal over eons of time, blah blah blah. They say it, but to believe it is also based on faith because no one alive today, or since Darwin’s time, was alive that long ago. There is ZERO proof. Bears supposedly evolved the ability to hibernate. How, then, did bears survive winters before they began hibernating? If evolution takes as long as the evolution community says it takes, then all bears in northern climates would’ve died off, for lack of food, before winter was over and long before hibernating “evolved”. And if a bear, whose diet is 90 percent vegetation, a true omnivore, cannot survive winter because there is lack of food, then how can wolves survive winters if they have to rely on plant foods, which they would have to do if they really are omnivores? Bears and wolves share the same environment. Wolves would’ve also “evolved” the need and ability to hibernate, but they didn’t. That’s because wolves eat herbivores during winter just like they eat herbivores all year long. Because they are carnivores. Oh ,gee but you say that anything the prey eats the carnivore who eats the prey also eat what is in the prey’s stomach. What percentage of plant matter in a prey’s stomach is their compared to the rest of the animal that is flesh and bone ? A very small percentage. It doesn’t make a wolf, or ANY “domestic” dog an omnivore. Wolves and dogs are 99 percent genetically identical. Scientists cannot tell wolf dna from Labrador dna from Great dane dna from poodle dna. In fact a wolf is a species of wild DOG.

You say a lot of evolution has taken place on the 3000 years since wolves were domesticated into dogs. Evolution by what species? Wild wolves or domestic dogs? Selective breeding of dogs by humans is not the same as evolution. It’s the malleable genetic potential in the wolf dna. Evolution is a natural process, anyway. Artificial breeding by man is not the same as evolution. All domestic dogs are the same species and can interbreed with each other and can breed with all species of wild dog (wolf, jackal, coyote, dhole, dingo) If “evolution produces new species”, then why aren’t different breeds different species? They aren’t. They are varieties. Or has a lot of evolution taken place in 3000 years among wolves? There were wolves around 3000 years ago, and there are still wolves around today. They haven’t evolved into a new species. Wolves have not changed in that period of time. But the spiel is “Evolution takes millions of years”. How could evolution possibly have happened in so short a time as only 3000 years? Evolution is an unproven theory, as well. Ask anyone in the evolution community to prove it.

I don’t need or expect a response from you. Just think about what I’ve said. Do you own research. Contact the people I’ve mentioned. Read the books I recommended. Just for the possibility that what I say is true. Unless pride gets in the way. You decide. P.S None of this meant as a personal attack. This concludes are debate. No more will I respond to you, either. It’s been fun. Have a nice day.

Linda! Example of what I feed my dog is posted by a reply to Chico.