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  1. Beata

    While I agree that FDA and other organizations overlooking standarts of quality of food for people and pets do shady job of showing us what is really in the food, I am deeply perplexed who in the world still buys dog treats made in China? Our household carefully reads ALL products we buy and we put back anything that remotely suggests made in China. Some of the products are tricky as will only say ‘assembled in Canada’. I think its time for us – consumers – to become educated and just say no to pardon me – crap – from China!

    1. Carol

      Many foods do not state where the food is from. And when they do how do we know that the ingredients are not from overseas?? Example: I received a list of the first 3 numbers on the code that will tell you if a product is from china. Well I bought “Simply Nourish SOURCE” It took me an hour on the internet to finally discover that it was Made in china. They are changing the numbers. Such clever entrepreneurs.

      1. Ann

        I just looked at the import records at the link provided above. It is disgusting to see that TONS of these jerky treats are on their way from China right now and just in time for Christmas gifts for our pets, just as Susan said.
        I urge everyone to send those records out to everyone in your address book and let them know that they are usafe to give to their pets.
        People get very busy around the holidays and forget that the treats have injured and killed hundreds of pets or think that if they are allowed back onto the shelves that surely the problem has been fixed.
        Be sure and name the name on them – Nestle Purina Canyon Creek Waggin Train jerky treats, not just chicken but also duck and ham.

        1. Angel

          Not just chicken, duck & ham, but also SWEET POTATO, as well! Many of the treats that poisoned pets (mine included) were sweet potato-based. And even big US sounding brand names are using Chinese meat and sweet potatoes (then & now). I’ve even seen treats that stated on the labels that they are US-Based; Assembled in the US; Made for Such & Such in the US; etc., but never say that they are from China or contain Chinese ingredients. Or if they do, it is in teeny little print somewhere so hard to see that no one will ever find it easily. Over 2 years ago when my pup was poisoned the treats I was buying had a large US flag on the bag giving the impression they were made in the US (they weren’t!). These companies are sneaky & find tricky little legal sales loopholes to try & fool us into buying their Chinese garbage because they know no one wants it!

    2. Cheri Fun Fellinger

      Amen to boycotting chicken products of ANY kind from China. I am under the impression that most Asian meals are made with dark meat only and that is why white meat is available for dog treats. So does that mean Chinese residents are eating the dark meat from the same contaminated chickens that are made in to toxic dog treats?

  2. Robin

    I found Kona’s treats which are made in California from USDA approved meat, and some are even organic. Perhaps you could ask them to sign your pledge. I have been using their “gold dust” to entice my aging dog to eat.

  3. Peter

    I think you have approached this issue fairly, and deserve answers to your questions. Whether it is intentional or not, this “mistake” is inexcusable.

  4. Marsha

    I just purchased a dehydrator. I guess that says it all. I will make my own organic chicken jerky for my dogs. The rest of the world be damned!!!!! Next on my list is, (When it becomes available and cost much much less), a unit that freeze dries food instantly. And the way things are going I will be going back to making my dogs their own organic dog food again. Thank heaven I saved my recipes.

    1. Carol

      I do this!

  5. Marsha

    To the FDA, ” Lier, Lier PANTS ON FIRE!!!!!!!” I do not trust our government.

    1. Hannie

      You took the words right out of my mouth! I don’t believe a thing any of the agencies say & I think a lot of people feel the same. I’ll be damned if I’d ever believe them when they say a pet food or treat is safe. I home cook & research everything I buy.

  6. TMay

    Well the FDA cleared the processing of American chickens in China to be shipped back to the US to be sold in stores with no label signifying that for human consumption, and now are close to allowng chickens raised in China to be sold in the US for human consumption. Personally I don’t like the idea.

    1. Susan Thixton Author

      Actually…that madness is compliments of the USDA (not FDA).

  7. Nina Wolf

    I am aghast. My mouth is agape. It shouldn’t come as such a big surprise, but conspiracies never work out. So any conspiracy to cover up the truth about what is going on at the FDA is a plan just waiting to be uncovered…and I know the person for the job. Are they assuming no one will notice? That we are all too trusting, too complacent, too stupid to figure this out? This is a monstrous scandal, it really is.

  8. Jennifer

    Outdated antibiotics can cause Fanconi Snydrome. Here is a pubmed article about dogs who ate chicken treats and developed it: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22058368

    Here is an article about Fanconi Snydrome in dogs and a paragraph about treatment with a link to the Fanconi Protocol which is the treatment: http://www.akcchf.org/canine-health/your-dogs-health/disease-information/fanconi-syndrome.html

    Here is updated information from an interview with the author of the Fanconi Management Protocol for Vets:
    http://basenjicompanions.org/2013/09/15/about-fanconi-syndrome/ There are also other informative articles about Fanconi Syndrome on this website.

    I have Basenjis and have had three dogs with the genetic form of Fanconi Syndrome and each was able to live to an older age, the oldest being 13, and all were on the Fanconi Protocol. The two older ones did not die of Fanconi but of tumors. An owner must catch Fanconi early, have a knowledgable vet, and follow the protocol. There is a Fanconi dogs forum on Yahoo Groups that you can join if your animal has the disease. It is an extremely helpful forum.

    1. Carol

      Thanks for the info!

  9. Connie

    Typo?Changing parts per billion (ppm – how New York stated concentrations) to parts per million (ppm – how FDA stated concentrations)

    Ppm for both?

    Thank you for following this

    1. Susan Thixton Author

      Got it! Thank you.

  10. Tracy

    I love the idea if the list. Unfortunately, I am always unable to access the products where I live. 🙁

  11. Batzion

    If the FDA and USDA are content in poisoning the American people with GMOs and diseased, farm-raised fish, it only follows that they would do the same with our animals. The lot of them should be thrown in jail for attempted homicide.

  12. Angel

    Because of the excessive amount of Enrofloxacin (Baytril) used in the Waggin’ Train & Canyon Creek Ranch jerky treats that my (under 18 month old) puppy was fed (in amounts less than directed on the package), he developed severe articular cartilage damage/deformities. He is only 2.5 years old & has already had to have FHOs on both hips (1 was due to an extremely severe & rare type of dislocation), both shoulders, both knees & all 4 ankles constantly suffer from subluxations and random slipping or rolling. He actually walks on his knuckles and the inside of his ankles most of the time. This dog had no problems with his joints prior to maturity (& the Baytril contaminated treats) & came from European/International Champion parents. I will never trust commercial treats again!

    1. Jenise Alongi

      Hi Angel, sorry to hear about your dog, my 7 year old Italian greyhound was misdiagnosed for years with luxated patella and neuropathy. Currently her diagnosis is arthritis, and she has just had tarsal arthrodesis because her rear ankle was collapsing, but I have always suspected a correlation between her issues and the “Yam Good” treats she loved so much. She has luxations of all her toes and walks on her knuckles as well. I was looking into phorate on the China sweet potato treats because she was at one point thought to have nerve damage. How did you come to the conclusion about baytril? Does your vet acknowledge this as the cause? Makes me so sick to see this poison still on the shelves, and to know that other innocent animals and their owners will have to suffer for profits.

      1. Angel

        Hi, I’m sorry to hear about your greyhound having these issues, as well. My boy came from International Champion parents who were both OFA Excellent and had he no orthopedic issues prior to the eating of these treats. When the major recall took place, one of the illegal antibiotics they found in them was Enrofloxacin (aka Baytril), which is notorious for causing articular damage in puppies under 18 months old. My vet actually refuses to give it to any dog under 2 years old for this very reason. And yes, my vet does acknowledge this as the cause of his orthopedic issues. My guy has had so many subluxations that he now has severe arthritis (at less than 3 years old) that he is on twice daily Metacam for the pain. Without the Metacam he is unable to walk, get up from a lying position or even stand to be picked up or touched. You can actually sublux both of his shoulders just by petting them gently & his knees & ankles will sublux whenever you manually bend his relaxed leg/foot.

  13. Jeri

    So glad I went with my “gut” and voted for the FDA for dumbest act of the year, but it was a tough choice! (Like another poster, I thought the AVMA should have made the list for their attacks on raw food and silence on the kibble recalls for those same pathogens….)

  14. Jeff White

    If the FDA really did lie to the public about the levels of antibiotic found in the tested samples, they must have forgotten to tell the “New York State Laboratory” that did the actual testing to keep their mouths shut.

    Are we really supposed to believe that this was a genuine attempt by the FDA to deceive the public?

    1. Jeri

      It’s not so incredible, really, when you realize the arrogance of most of these organizations. They simply never think they’ll be held accountable at any level. Sadly, they are too often correct. I’m sure it wouldn’t occur to the FDA or any other governmental organization that the truth might come out from another source! If it’s NOT deliberate, that makes them just as culpable in addition to being negligent and incompetent. Guess it depends on which one you find more plausible – but it’s damning either way.

  15. lynn

    anything that goes on with pet food or people foods doesn’t shock me anymore, it makes me sad for pet owner’s who know nothing about what they are feeding their pet’s and not knowing they could die from what the pet parents thinking they are giving them is good for their loved pet child and by not being informed they are doing out of love then find out after their pet is sick or dies from what our government allows in feed for pets. I have always home cooked and will keep it up but for those who can’t check out pet food made in Canada. they have higher standard’s then the use doe even for human foods. we have to do the best that we can and stay informed. susan is doing a great job for all us.

  16. Betty

    I had a litter of three puppies. I started feeding them Nutro for large breed puppies, my dogs are GOldens. But none of the puppies would eat the food….just would not touch it. SO I went back to Petsmart for another puppy food. I saw Simply Nourish Chicken and Rice for puppies. I read all the ingredients. THe food sounded great. One thing that bothered me was it didn’t say made in the USA. I asked the manager of the store and he said it was made just for Petsmart. He convinced me to take it home and call the company…because he had no idea what company made this. I had tried other so called ‘good’ puppy foods before. Wellness, Blue Buffalo, Nutro,Canadae etc. and not happy with them. So i took this home and called the company. After much talking and almost arguing, the guy on the phone promised me that Simply Nourish puppy food was made in the USA, and that the lamb in their foods came from New Zealand and Australia and the salmon came from ALaska. I still argued that nothing stated it was made in AMerica and no mention of the company that made it. I won’t buy Diamond Company foods, or Menu foods, or Sunshine food. Anyway, I did end up feeding the food to the puppies, and they loved it and did well on it, but it still bugs me that there was no mention as to where it was made. Plus it was pricey too for a small bag. I have told my puppy owners to switch to a better food when they are 6 months old. Someone mentioned in the comments that Simply Nourish was made in China, The company swears it wasn’t but still no one at the corporate office knows what company makes the food! I feel very upset after reading China made it.

    1. Ann

      My experience has been that if it is Made In USA it will ALWAYS promote that on the package. However, as I have recently learned, that doesn’t mean that all of the ingredients were SOURCED in the USA.
      The deception exists at all levels.
      I recently bought Susan’s 2014 list and I am currently introducing those foods from manufacturers who have signed her pledge. Some of the foods are pretty expensive, but since I have spent over $3000 saving the life of my young dog poisoned by the China chicken jerky treats, it will take me a long time to spend that much extra on a food that I can trust.

    2. Dawn Farrington

      Its canned in thailand where their law are even sticker than USA

  17. Sandra Lewis

    All of these lies, coverups and “not me!, not us!, from the FDA just makes me ill. Not as ill as our beloved pets though. I stopped at Walgreens and saw some dog treats with the AKC label. To my horror the package said they were made in China. What the @#$%#@???? Sorry, lost my temper there. You can’t trust the FDA, now you can’t trust the AKC.

    Well, the answer is: Do NOT buy any pet food/treats made in China OR ANY pet food/treats that aren’t clearly marked made in the USA and from the USA. If it isn’t clear, don’t buy it!! Send them a letter/email stating why. Then write your Congressman/woman, Senator and every darn goverment entity that has anything to do with pet food in any fashion. Bury them in email, snail mail and any way possible with complaints and demands that our pets deserve the same quality & concerns as we humans do.

    Once again, simply refuse to buy any pet product made in or imported from China. I just left about $200.00 worth of groceries at Krogers after hearing the manager say that they would be continuing to carry Waggin Tails. Money talks and there are a whole lot of pet owners walking out their doors and spending it elsewhere.

    1. Ann

      I agree that nothing speaks more loudly than our wallets to these greedy unethical retailers. The list of places that I will no longer buy from is getting longer and longer.
      The only way to get them to care is to hit them where it hurts…and that is not in their hearts, only in their pockets.

  18. Max

    Susan, It’s easy for one agency to have different reporting numbers for the same contaminant, depending on how the statistics were done. They may be working with small sample sizes or the NY department may be reporting the maximum amount they saw in a single test of a product while the FDA is reporting the maximum amount per product averaged over several tests (which will correct for potentially erroneous measurements).

    I’m sure there are a lot of pet lovers in both agencies who are working in good faith and want this problem solved as much as you do. Perhaps it’s better not to jump to conclusions and antagonize the authority that can actually fix the problem?

    1. Susan Thixton Author

      Max – If you read the FDA report – FDA stated the NY test results. That is the concern, FDA provided the NY test results differently than NY did. FDA keeps insisting the illegal drugs found in the treats did not cause the illnesses and deaths of thousands of pets – and they tell us, it is because the amounts were so small. According to NY, who actually performed the tests (not FDA itself) – the amounts were not low. NY actually has stated in conversation some of the results were “hot”. Many experts believe the drugs were indeed the cause and many are dumbfounded that treats remain on store shelves. Remember, this investigation has gone on for 7 years…the needs authority needs to fix the problem.

  19. molly

    Soon, chicken for people in the US may either be processed or grown in China. I was talking to my 11 year old about this and how China got away with poisioning dogs and our government did nothing. He says, “Well, mom, when people start getting sick from the chicken, mabe the government will finally do something.” The sad, but true, wisdom of a child.

  20. susan

    I am so confused now. I have been feeding my dogs bill-jac for over 16 years. One is 10 years old and my puppy of 9 months both stopped eating. Tried different moist foods to mix in with the dry food and nothing. Tried one from the vet, ate it 1 day and then nothing. Be a suggestion of my dog’s trainer n they suggested simple nourish and the dogs are eating this better. But now VERY worried that it is produced in China. What food is a great balanced kibble that they all eat and is safe for them.

    1. Carol Moyer

      If it is from China I wouldn’t even think of giving it to my dogs.. Try Wellness, Halo or Blue Buffalo

  21. Carol Moyer

    Unfortunately people have been getting sick for many years due to our poisonous foods. Most are made right here. Monsanto and Dow are continuing the GMO and pesticide war with the blessing of our EPA..

  22. Kenneth

    Regardless of what they are measuring, the simple fact is that pets are getting sick and dying from these jerky treats.

    You stop import, and stop sales, and then you can start to figure out what’s the cause if you care at all about the animals, and not just the interest of some pet food company.

    You don’t investigate the cause while pets are getting sick and dying until you find the cause.

    How is that a hard concept to grasp?

    This is why I stopped buying ANY commercial pet food OR treats and feeding home made from sources I control. Treats I also make myself, get a food dehydrator and make your own treats, much better and you know what’s in there.

    They (Commercial pet food companies) have shown time and time again they _can’t_ be trusted.

    When’s the next recall and when’s it gonna hit me and my pets? When’s the next bad additive being added? When’s the next silent takeover from P&G, Mars, Nestle, or Colgate-Palmolive of the high quality food brand I’m buying slowly turning it into garbage? When are they starting to cut corners making my pets sick? Or some plant they are getting ingredients from getting lazy contaminating everything with salmonella or something else that’s going to hurt my pets? Why do my pets sometimes refuse to eat the same cans of food they always eat? Why do they all get the runs after being fed some can of food, and why is there sometimes a very bad smell from one of the cans of the exact same food?

    Why do we need all these vague terms that they like to hide behind? like “animal byproducts” (What animal, what part of said animal, what byproduct?), “meal” (What’s used in this “meal?”), “with meat” (What meat, and from what animal?) “with chicken”, “with lamb” etc.. (What part of said chicken or lamb etc.., feathers and beaks, hooves, snouts, intestines, what?) Why do you as a pet food company need to hide behind these vague terms so I as a consumer can’t know what you’re using?

    Should we just accept whatever vague term you use as a “black box” ?, hell no!

    I’ve fed my human family home cooked from scratch for 20+ years and managed never to make anyone sick.

    I can do the same for my pets, and so can you.

    Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me.

    Never going back to commercial food, good riddance.

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