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  1. Jose A. Carmona

    That is true. Grains are definitely not good for Siberian huskies, for example. If any of mine eat something with any grain, they will get ill.

  2. Tina

    Makes me glad we have been feeding a prey model raw diet since 2004. We feed mostly wild game, 80% muscle meat, 10% bone and 10% organs. Vets can’t believe how healthy our dogs are. We are also vaccine free & chemical free!

  3. Dr. Laurie Coger

    Thanks to Dr. Fox for writing this, and you for sharing it! There are some veterinarians who are writing that this study shows that dogs can thrive on carbohydrate laden diets! Talk about the misuse of data…

    I’ve been feeding and promoting a natural, raw diet for almost 20 years. And yes, I do include some vegetables and fruits (more as a treat than as a dietary staple, but the bulk of any meal is meat, organs, and bone. Dogs fed this way truly thrive.

    1. Kristin Maloney

      Dr. Laurie-

      I am looking to transition from buying raw food to making my own. Do you mind sharing your recipe you use. I keep finding contradictory information about what recipes should include. Thanks!

      1. Tina

        I’m not Laurie, but don’t make feeding your own raw complicated. Dogs need 80% muscle meat (which includes heart and tongue), 10% bone and 10% organ and it’s all over time so you don’t feed these ratios per meal. For example, we feed wild game scraps year around. We feed our german shepherds a pound of deer meat once a day and then once or twice a week they get a meaty deer neck or a rack of 4 ribs. On bone day they also each get 1/4lb of either liver or kidney, that’s it.

        When we didn’t have access to wild game, we fed 50% whole chickens cut in half and 50% beef heart and then organs once a week. We fed chicken one day and heart the next. The chicken satified their bone requirement and actually chicken is about 30% bone, so we fed chicken 3 times a week and heart 4 times a week. You can tell by their stools if they are getting too much bone or not. Some dogs need a little bone daily to keep their stools normal, others like ours, only need bone once a week.

  4. Lynda

    The issues is quality of protien, you can get protien from shoe leather. But if you have deboned Chicken or salmon in protien there is no comparison to a a product that says their source of protien comes from “Animal Protien”.
    Very good article. Thank you for sharing.

  5. Donna Talbot

    I have three generations of golden retrievers in my family and they all eat Bravo raw diet. My girls (ages 10.5, 8 and 3.5)are very healthy, a good weight and are well muscled. I believe a raw diet (which is a blend of meat, organ meat, ground bone and veggies)promotes good health in my dogs. I wouldn’t consider feeding them anything else. I also encourage my puppy customers to feed Bravo and, thankfully, many of them do.

  6. Dr Amy Nesselrodt

    I agree with Dr. Fox! Thank you Susan for sharing this!
    Just because dogs can break down some starches (and we already knew they could for goodness sakes!) does NOT mean a high starch/high carb diet is good for them. Excess carbs may lead to obesity, diabetes and/or glucose intolerance, high blood pressure, high triglycerides, and (in people at least) low HDL (“good cholesterol”). Have you read Dr Patton’s book “Ruined by Excess, Perfected by Lack: The Paradox of Pet Nutrition” ? He wrote a whole book about how the excess of carbs has been hard on our pets’ health! Other problems with high grain diets: phytates in grains bind nutrients, and grain mites often lead to allergies. Grains lack many nutrients dogs need. There is also some evidence that protein losing nephropathy (which on of my collies currently suffers from)may be from consuming grain based diets! So…don’t be jumping to any conclusions, folks that dog “thrive” on high starch diets!!!!!!!!!! Dr. Amy Nesselrodt

    http://DrAmyRawDogFoodResearch.com/RawDogFoodResearch/

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  7. Reader

    The Readers share wonderful endorsements for raw feeding. Doing so absolutely transforms pets (energy, enthusiasm, muscles, coat, eliminates skin & ear problems, with many more benefits!) I have miniature poodles (very young, middle age, and older). All handle raw very well (including excellent stools) using what amounts to a “hamburger grind” of raw beef, organs, yams and veggies, mixed with THK’s “Preference.” This is a fresh to frozen proprietary blend, which I can recommend (but do not sell or benefit from) if you live in my area. Please let me know in another post.
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    Be sure to find and use the highest quality of commercial raw diet. Some are definitely better than others. Since it IS raw food, some are processed and preserved for mass production and distribution in different ways. This can make a difference. For those preparing homemade, yes, using organ meats is very beneficial, including hearts, kidneys, tongue, (it also lessens the fat content, and is more nutrient dense). Please take into consideration the size and age of your dog. If your dog has a history of only being fed kibble, or has a sensitive stomach, test your dog carefully at first and transition gently. Large dogs can handle “chunks” of protein and big heavy bones, as described above. One of our miniature middle aged poodles will gnaw on a huge femur bone over a couple of days. So there’s no danger of choking.
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    Fresh raw food for middle to much smaller sized dogs needs to be ground up to avoid choking, and prevent the danger of breaking a tooth. An older dog’s teeth may be more fragile if not already used to gnawing on bones. The younger a healthy dog is started on raw, the stronger the mouth will remain (and cleaner the teeth will stay)! And finally, be careful when feeding raw during hot weather. Don’t leave out food bowls sitting unattended and uncleaned. Wash well with soap and water. Keep separate the pet dishes from other dishware and utensils.

  8. lynn

    this research hummmmmmm why do they think caring pet parents would buy more lies seems they are full of themself.i will only make my fur babies food. i even buy rabbit meat at earthfare… that is a organic grocery store.i know it is balanced and healthy… most of all i know what’s in it.not what THEY are telling all of us.i do not trust dog food companies. let anyone call me a nut. i will not ever be tangled in a recall w/ my fur baby.

    1. Tina

      Good for you Lynn! I wish more people would do the research and realize that a species appropriate prey model diet is the best for their dogs! Vets get 4 hours of training on nutrition in vet school and it’s given by a rep from none other than…. Science Diet! I think there are a couple other kibble companies that do the training now too. Give me a break!

  9. Tina

    And feeding raw does not have to be complicated. Give them a chicken quarter or a half a chicken for larger dogs. Feed 2-3% of their adult weight in food.

    Small dogs do not need their food ground; in fact, ground meat has too much fat in it for most dogs. You want dogs to get the chewing action from whole pieces of meat, at leat the size of their head or bigger so if you have a gulper they won’t try to swallow it whole. I’ve also fed it frozen so they have to chew it. There are a couple of yahoo groups to join rawfeeding and rawchat that have thousands of members to help you feed a raw diet if you are not already and have questions.

  10. Allison Nicolas

    Please beware. Grains are not the only bad filler pet food companies use to reduce their costs. The new big fillers being used are potato and tapioca. Any dry pet food will contain one of these fillers usually as a 2nd or 3rd ingredient. They are NO better than grain! This is a new marketing gimmick to trick pet food consumers…I’ve even seen grain free foods at the grocery store! Next time you are looking to buy a pre-made grain free food have a look at the ingredients…it may be grain free but if potato or tapioca is the 2nd ingredient you aren’t doing much better. Potato actually caused worse allergies for my lab due to the fact it accelerates yeast growth. She now eats a strictly raw diet and every month she’s doing better! No more ear infections…no more vets telling me ‘it’s a lab thing’. Believe me it’s a food thing! Almost all pet illnesses are caused by food, medications or vaccines. Please don’t support the companies that want us to poison our pets. Make your own pet food it’s the only way to go!

    1. Tina

      Great post, Allison!

  11. Donna Talbot

    Wonderful post, Allison! I wish more people would understand this!

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